Like all other posters arguing against this, you've provided many hows, but no whys.

What kind, and what do they serve to accomplish?

Just throwing the word "consequences" at me is pretty much like blowing off a metaphysical question with a response of "it's in the bible."

1. The most complaints about clones come from people who pvp in 0.0 and wormholes where you can't save your pod because of bubbles. This isn't player choice; it's circumstance. The alternative here is to pvp less, something that's not good for EVE.

2. ????? You typed some gibberish here that I don't understand at all, but I'll try to address it anyway...somehow.

Thanks for collecting LOTS OF SP for so long now heres a penalty which goes against all time investment in game.

So I managed to force myself to read more of the posts in this thread.

I am shocked.

What the **** do you guys want? Risk free pvp with losses without a meaning?

It's not actually your game it's CCP's and from what you have written, you've written it from your perspective. But it might shock you to know that not everyone is in the same boat as you. A reduction in the cost of clones, you would hardly even notice, whereas it could mean a big deal for other players.

You're another one that's over reacting, nobody is talking about free clones. Well I say nobody, there was 1 post I've seen that mentioned it and I gave a reason why I think that's not a good idea.

It's not about making clones cost nothing but it is about reducing their costs.

No, we, want to make the choice of how much we risk. Right now I am forced to risk a 32 million ISK clone. I don't get a choice.

GǪand that's fair enough. Implants already provide this and offer a clear cost-benefit analysis where you can choose your investment level and tailor it to the context (stakes vs. fun vs. bonuses).

It's possible to simply let your toon train year after year without doing much of anything else. Or, such as in my case, I am an industrial toon and I don't PVP....

Yes, clone costs are a consideration for me and PVP in addition to ship/fits loss.

Therein lies one of the major issues for me, its simply too easy to get podded in both Null and W-Space. 1 bubble and you know its gonna be a quick trip home.

If people have such a problem with this, maybe CCP should just add some skills that lower clone costs, Clone Bio Engineering or something. That way the advantage goes again to high SP toons but that seems to be what low SP players want... They can keep paying the full clone costs out of principle then...

What you appear to be missing is that effortless pvp where losses doesn't mean anything is completely worthless (at least to me).

Sure, remove clone costs, add 100% insurance for ship and modules, even make a new ship appear in your hangar fitted the same way as the ship you just lost. That would really really make people pvp more, wouldn't it? But what would the reason to pvp be?

I really don't care exactly how much a clone costs. I've been playing since 2003 and my clone is expensive now, with or without implants. The changes you propose would benifit me but it's another step towards meaningless pvp. I want losses to hurt. I want people to get mad when I kill their ship. I want to be afraid of losing my own ship and pod. I don't want this game to end up all about killmails and killstats. I WANT PEOPLE TO NOT UNDOCK IN A NEW SHIP BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD A NEW SHIP OR POD.